SE-NSE Forums:

Jump to content

  • (2 Pages)
  • +
  • 1
  • 2
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic
  • Bookmark

X10 Users DO NOT Update To R2BA026 - WiFi Bug returns! Rate Topic: -----

#1 User is offline   MikLSP Icon

  • (/) SE-and-DROID [:]
  • Icon
  • Group: Admins
  • Posts: 13,980
  • Joined: 23-March 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Lancaster, UK
  • Mobile:Xperia X10, W880i (silver), T610 (red), ///T68, CAR-100, VGC-V3S!

Posted 29 July 2010 - 08:12 PM

Having heard about the latest firmware update available for the SE X10 I jumped onto Sony Ericsson Update Service and started to install this "recommended" update from the masters of firmware disaster! While the update was running I turned and said "I like getting new updates, it can only make things better".....these were famous last words indeed!

You may remember that back when we had the R1FA016 firmware I was able to pinpoint this rather glaring bug in the X10's radio setup which caused the phone to turn off the WiFi each and every time the phone dropped to no signal AND again when it reattached to the network. This was a particularly troublesome bug for me living in a poor signal area so I was especially pleased to see SE fix it with the recent R2BA020 firmware. Imagine my disgust, though funnily enough not surprise, then when I begin trying out my freshly installed R2BA026 update and witness the return of of this disastrous radio implementation.

My WiFi is once again useless as it turns itself off and on again constantly as my X10 struggles for signal and will likely have to downgrade back to R2BA020. In stark contrast to SE, I can only recommend that you avoid this update unless you wish to lose functionality.

Well done SE another triumph of wireless engineering, please sack whichever cretinous buffoon(s) that worked on this! Either that or stop tasking your firmware updates to the work experience kids you amateurs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Here are the previous videos again as they show the exact same symptoms.




Mik

From Unofficial Sony Ericsson Blog: http://blog.se-nse.n...fi-bug-returns/

1

#2 User is offline   Krazy D Icon

  • Retired Moderator
  • Icon
  • Group: VIP
  • Posts: 3,376
  • Joined: 08-July 08
  • Gender:Male
  • Tutorials Submitted:5

Posted 29 July 2010 - 08:51 PM

Oh dear is all I can say.
0

#3 User is offline   Manny Icon

  • SE-NSEitive
  • Icon
  • Group: Developer
  • Posts: 2,086
  • Joined: 01-April 08
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Bradford
  • Mobile:Xperia PLAY - 16GB, Galaxy S2
  • Twitter:Manny19_786

Posted 29 July 2010 - 09:02 PM

Watching this, I don't feel like getting the X10... SE, come on! haven't you learnt from your mistakes yet?!
0

#4 User is offline   Kaosblade Icon

  • the one and only se-nsei
  • Icon
  • Group: LBL
  • Posts: 2,627
  • Joined: 31-January 09
  • Gender:Male
  • Mobile:HTC Wildfire S

Posted 29 July 2010 - 09:08 PM

:lol:
0

#5 User is offline   MikLSP Icon

  • (/) SE-and-DROID [:]
  • Icon
  • Group: Admins
  • Posts: 13,980
  • Joined: 23-March 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Lancaster, UK
  • Mobile:Xperia X10, W880i (silver), T610 (red), ///T68, CAR-100, VGC-V3S!

Posted 29 July 2010 - 09:08 PM

At least all that isn't going to get censored.

I will be bombarding SE with a link to this tomorrow and have also created a topic on their new support forum.

It seemed they had learned as they fixed this and now inexplicably brought it back.
0

#6 User is offline   Boysie Icon

  • I am NOT your master OR your brother
  • Icon
  • Group: Super Moderators
  • Posts: 34,322
  • Joined: 31-July 08
  • Gender:Male

Posted 29 July 2010 - 09:52 PM

Quite unbelievable. Haven't they learned anything?
Personal messages that have no need to be private will not be answered. We have a forum for asking questions so please use it.
0

#7 User is offline   syanide Icon

  • Non-se-nse
  • PipPipPip
  • Group: New Members
  • Posts: 174
  • Joined: 16-April 10
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Leicester, UK
  • Twitter:KamSamji

Posted 30 July 2010 - 09:32 AM

Mik,

I don't want to detract from your plight, but apart from that glaringly bad error on SE's part - do we know the reason for the update? Any 'other' benefits?

I know SE are cr4p, but I don't think they put out an update just to spite you Posted Image , or maybe they did???Posted Image
0

#8 User is offline   MikLSP Icon

  • (/) SE-and-DROID [:]
  • Icon
  • Group: Admins
  • Posts: 13,980
  • Joined: 23-March 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Lancaster, UK
  • Mobile:Xperia X10, W880i (silver), T610 (red), ///T68, CAR-100, VGC-V3S!

Posted 30 July 2010 - 01:29 PM

No idea what else has changed, to be honest I can't really say I've noticed any other detectable difference
0

#9 User is offline   syanide Icon

  • Non-se-nse
  • PipPipPip
  • Group: New Members
  • Posts: 174
  • Joined: 16-April 10
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Leicester, UK
  • Twitter:KamSamji

Posted 30 July 2010 - 03:57 PM

Mik, just read your post on the SE forum! Made me laugh - sorry!:p

I hope some grown ups are reading that Forum.

I have mixed feelings. On the one hand, I'm happy that there are people at SE that are bothering with updates, but on the other hand (even though your issue doesn't affect me), I'm peed off at the incompetence.

Wish I had gone with HTC Desire! They're getting 2.2 this weekend - announced by HTC directly....and 2 of the UK networks have already announced when they're releasing their versions...Oh such efficiency! :drool:

This post has been edited by syanide: 30 July 2010 - 03:58 PM

0

#10 User is offline   bigyinn72 Icon

  • No Se-nse
  • PipPip
  • Group: New Members
  • Posts: 61
  • Joined: 05-November 09
  • Gender:Male

Posted 02 August 2010 - 09:39 AM

View Postsyanide, on 30 July 2010 - 04:57 PM, said:

Mik, just read your post on the SE forum! Made me laugh - sorry!:p

I hope some grown ups are reading that Forum.

I have mixed feelings. On the one hand, I'm happy that there are people at SE that are bothering with updates, but on the other hand (even though your issue doesn't affect me), I'm peed off at the incompetence.

Wish I had gone with HTC Desire! They're getting 2.2 this weekend - announced by HTC directly....and 2 of the UK networks have already announced when they're releasing their versions...Oh such efficiency! :drool:

syanide, have you now got issues with wifi since the update, or just Mik (or anyone else)?
0

#11 User is offline   syanide Icon

  • Non-se-nse
  • PipPipPip
  • Group: New Members
  • Posts: 174
  • Joined: 16-April 10
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Leicester, UK
  • Twitter:KamSamji

Posted 02 August 2010 - 09:43 AM

Difficult to say as I'm not in a dodgy reception area, so I can't test the issue. I have no reason to doubt Mik though. I will try to keep an eye out. However, I don't be able to tell what it was like with 020 as I wasn't looking out for it then.

Syanide
0

#12 User is offline   USEB Commenter Icon

  • Comments from Non-members
  • Icon
  • Group: News Team
  • Posts: 507
  • Joined: 08-February 10
  • Gender:Male

Posted 02 August 2010 - 11:35 AM

Blog comment left by Will: Bollocks! I read this post too late :( I've sent SE a late night rant about their incompetence, but as I don't expect a very speedy response from them, does anyone know how to "downgrade" to R2BA020? Thanks Will
0

#13 User is offline   USEB Commenter Icon

  • Comments from Non-members
  • Icon
  • Group: News Team
  • Posts: 507
  • Joined: 08-February 10
  • Gender:Male

Posted 02 August 2010 - 11:35 AM

Blog comment left by Insider: i can report that due to a messed up time table they skipped out on the regression testing on this release. And that is not the only :censored: up they've made, more bugs then ever are present. Good luck you sorry :censored: :).
0

#14 User is offline   syanide Icon

  • Non-se-nse
  • PipPipPip
  • Group: New Members
  • Posts: 174
  • Joined: 16-April 10
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Leicester, UK
  • Twitter:KamSamji

Posted 02 August 2010 - 11:41 AM

There's no need for language like that, surely?
0

#15 User is offline   USEB Commenter Icon

  • Comments from Non-members
  • Icon
  • Group: News Team
  • Posts: 507
  • Joined: 08-February 10
  • Gender:Male

Posted 02 August 2010 - 03:53 PM

Blog comment left by Will:

syanide: I apologise if it is my language you are referring to, this was pretty tame compared to obscenities I was shouting when I first realised the bug had returned... :(

Back on topic:
I called SE today and they said they would get back to me within 5 working days. I'll keep you posted when they do.

I've managed to replicated this issue on two other X10s, so it is definitely a phone/firmware issue.

To replicate a loss of mobile signal, go to mobile networks settings and switch between "GSM only" and "WCDMA only". There will be a brief period when the phone has no signal. I would be interested to see if anyone's X10 can maintain a wifi connection between this transition. It worked fine in firmware 020 and I don't see why it shouldn't be the same for 026...

0

#16 User is offline   syanide Icon

  • Non-se-nse
  • PipPipPip
  • Group: New Members
  • Posts: 174
  • Joined: 16-April 10
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Leicester, UK
  • Twitter:KamSamji

Posted 03 August 2010 - 09:00 AM

It's ok. Thought your 'good luck' message was to us, the users that went ahead with the update. Now I realised it was aimed at SE.

All good.

:-)
0

#17 User is offline   MikLSP Icon

  • (/) SE-and-DROID [:]
  • Icon
  • Group: Admins
  • Posts: 13,980
  • Joined: 23-March 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Lancaster, UK
  • Mobile:Xperia X10, W880i (silver), T610 (red), ///T68, CAR-100, VGC-V3S!

Posted 03 August 2010 - 05:11 PM

Incidentally you can test this even in a stable reception area.

As long as you don't have 3G coverage go to Settings > Wireless controls > Mobile networks > Network mode and choose WCDMA only.

When I do this the WiFi immediately switches off the same was as seen in the video.
0

#18 User is offline   syanide Icon

  • Non-se-nse
  • PipPipPip
  • Group: New Members
  • Posts: 174
  • Joined: 16-April 10
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Leicester, UK
  • Twitter:KamSamji

Posted 03 August 2010 - 07:47 PM

I've replicated this. Basically, in settings, if you pick the network mode that you're not currently on, then it will temporarily lose all network connection while it searches for the other network type. Anyway, not surprisingly, the WiFi goes off with I
t. And not only that, but it takes an age to contact up to the WiFi again!!!

Not that I doubted you Mik. :-)

Anyway, got to get back to my full 3G reception.... :-P
0

#19 User is offline   MikLSP Icon

  • (/) SE-and-DROID [:]
  • Icon
  • Group: Admins
  • Posts: 13,980
  • Joined: 23-March 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Lancaster, UK
  • Mobile:Xperia X10, W880i (silver), T610 (red), ///T68, CAR-100, VGC-V3S!

Posted 05 August 2010 - 02:17 PM

Yep, it's more than a little inconvenient!

I noticed that engadget reposted this and since then we've had another 7 or so ping backs from other sites doing the same so the good thing is that it's getting coverage and hopefully SE might crawl out of their cave for long enough to realise what a pathetic "update" they have put out there!
0

SE-NSE

#20 User is offline   syanide Icon

  • Non-se-nse
  • PipPipPip
  • Group: New Members
  • Posts: 174
  • Joined: 16-April 10
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Leicester, UK
  • Twitter:KamSamji

Posted 05 August 2010 - 02:49 PM

Don't you guys have access to the batphone at SE headquarters, in your capacity as Admin? I thought you guys would have a bit more clout with the powers to be?

Did anyone ever get back to you regarding your post on the SE 'support forum'?

Syanide
0

  • (2 Pages)
  • +
  • 1
  • 2
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic
  • Bookmark

1 User(s) are reading this topic
0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users