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scotsboyuk
Hello Smart Firmware Chaps

The mission:

Create downloadable starter packs containing relevant files, apps, etc that newbies need to start modding so they don't have to search through various links, etc.

Objective:

Make things easier for modding newbies.
Make things easier for smart firmware chaps; newbies can be pointed towards inclusive packs instead of asking you repeatedly about where to find different things.

We need volunteers for this project.


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CronoX
good idea...i can translate in italian language
scotsboyuk
That's the spirit! smile.gif Now we just need something to translate. tongue.gif
DaDih*
I can make packs to 240x320.
I make this packs ready to use, only put in MISC FILES in Setool and enjoy!
I can make themes and icons to use too!
Scots if you need, i'm here!!

And if you want we can do a group to help newbies and make a customizations!!
jock
I can make swedish guide tongue.gif
MSToTheEnd
I can translate the guides in the Tutorials Section but I think they can also be found in other sites. Your choice!

English > Spanish.
scotsboyuk
QUOTE (DaDih* @ 2008-11-07 00:34) *
I can make packs to 240x320.
I make this packs ready to use, only put in MISC FILES in Setool and enjoy!
I can make themes and icons to use too!
Scots if you need, i'm here!!

And if you want we can do a group to help newbies and make a customizations!!


Super stuff! smile.gif Please don't wait for em to give the word, the word has been given. smile.gif Anyone who wants to make up any of these download packs please feel free. smile.gif
KrX
So it'll be something like those in here, but with instructions/links to instructions or tutorials?

Well I can help to simplify and make more readable those tutorials in Tutorials/guides section, if you want. laugh.gif
scotsboyuk
Yes, something along those lines. smile.gif
spiderben25
I can translate to French if you want... smile.gif
devilwasabi
Translation of Chinese(KrX can read chinese too tongue.gif)

Hmms, basic problem solving? like menu, layout etc.
DaDih*
Scots I'll make one to you see!! wink.gif
And into the Tutorials thread i think is good make more and more tutorials to help newbies with simple things, like add flash menus, change skin walkman,, change icons menu and other.
I can make a tutorials to help newbies and others too.

EDIT

Scots I make this:
http://www.4shared.com/file/70121532/91f79...rified=c593bcad

Features:
-Layout without operator logo
-The 2nd camera shutter without sound
and add 2 new songs to camera shutter
-New acoustic
-New camdriver
-Icons style Windows
-Flash menus with themes
And others!!
mojsa
I can translate to croatian.. smile.gif
jock
To be a real good pack for beginners it should contain the most popular modding

Guide for unlocking
how to get rid of the ugly operator logo
Add flash menus
Patching and whats good with it

And sorry im to lazy to write this tongue.gif
Corman
I made a ModPack for W810i:

Included are:
- Firmware
- Flashing Programs
- Acoustics
- Camdrivers
- Patches
- Elfs
- Gfx to be used with SysGfx patch (included)
- Wally Dog's guide in pfd format

Download link: http://rapidshare.com/files/161475350/W810...man_ModPack.rar
number1
The downloads section needs to be updated with DB3150 .
Lic
I can make packs and translate it to polish language etc wink.gif
nemanja
QUOTE (mojsa @ 2008-11-07 14:49) *
I can translate to croatian.. smile.gif



many will understand the translation... thumbsup.gif


I support the idea (because I am a n00b laugh.gif )
diezil
Monster Packs!!! Monster Packs!!! Monster Packs!!! lol.
I'll sort my K810 OrG stuff out sometime, when I don't feel so lazy laugh.gif.
scotsboyuk
@DaDih*

Good work! smile.gif What should it be named?

@all

Please post any modpacks you make in this thread. smile.gif
Lic
Maybe we can make one whole pack for all phones in different languages?
And name it 'Operation se-nse a help #1' and it will contains:

-Basic FAQ about flashing & patching this phones,
-Basic Elfpacks, libraries and Dyn_const.bin's for all phones,
-and One Big Modification Pack with configuration files for all phones...


What R U think about it guys and girls?
DaDih*
Great Idea man!
I think the elfpack is not so good to newbies.
Because they dont know about update lib and others.
Then when the phone restarts with a new elf and your lib is dont have the functions they will cry!! heheh!!
mojsa
QUOTE (DaDih* @ 2008-11-07 20:46) *
Great Idea man!
I think the elfpack is not so good to newbies.
Because they dont know about update lib and others.
Then when the phone restarts with a new elf and your lib is dont have the functions they will cry!! heheh!!


They will cry!!!! laugh.gif
danimihalca
i can try to translate in Romanian if you need this smile.gif
scotsboyuk
We certainly shan't be short of language options! Much appreciated chaps! smile.gif

@Lic3ns3D

Good thinking! You chaps feel free to make up whatever you feel is best. smile.gif You know more than I do and you will know better than me what would be appropriate. smile.gif
CronoX
wooow....some problems of translation...true??ahah
number1
translation problems????

http://www.google.co.uk/language_tools?hl=en
ThilinaC
well 1st i think every1 must read tutorials in tut section...and then there wont be much problems like the noobs now got

so 1st thing u guys gotta do is make them read or leave modding
(now i see lot of guys modding their fones...who even dont have a gdfs backup...from where the hell they r gonna get a backup if gdfs dies )
mousex
If someone starts the project with basic elfpack/lib/dyn_const things I'm there for W880. Could create a script for setool lite which will automatically install/patch the elfpack, copy the elfpack files onto the phone and install the most used elfs with a simple default configuration. I can create this and upload it but someone else must start a thread for this.

About the "must read" of tutorials: other sites include a quiz into their registration forms with questions which have answers which can all be seen in the FAQ. So they have to read the FAQ before they can join and post. Something like this with questions like
"What do I do if I have a problem?"
1. start 3 topics in different sub forums with the same quetsion
2. write every user who could know the solution a pm
3. Read the tutorials and Newbie section, use the search, read the pinned threads

could maybe help, I don't know, maybe this opens the eyes for a few newbies wink.gif
h3ydrich
Guys, you can make the bloody title of the forum to be what a nub is searching for , he won't look, you know nubs as well as i do. A nub can't stand not posting dumb stupid topics asking something that we don't understand. From 15 nubs , 13 will post without even looking at the first page of topics.
josefcool25
QUOTE (Lic3ns3D @ 2008-11-07 17:16) *
Maybe we can make one whole pack for all phones in different languages?
And name it 'Operation se-nse a help #1' and it will contains:

-Basic FAQ about flashing & patching this phones,
-Basic Elfpacks, libraries and Dyn_const.bin's for all phones,
-and One Big Modification Pack with configuration files for all phones...


What R U think about it guys and girls?

Genuis,just genuis
devilwasabi
QUOTE (number1 @ 2008-11-09 01:33) *


I don't recommend it. it uses DIRECT translation, especially like Chinese, Japanese and korean etc.
DaDih*
IF you have time to help newbies and you WANT this, please PM me! wink.gif
We'll go make a oficial group to help noobies!!
ThilinaC
QUOTE (h3ydrich @ 2008-11-09 05:01) *
Guys, you can make the bloody title of the forum to be what a nub is searching for , he won't look, you know nubs as well as i do. A nub can't stand not posting dumb stupid topics asking something that we don't understand. From 15 nubs , 13 will post without even looking at the first page of topics.

well im not planing to help any of these idiotic kind ppl.....
h3ydrich
Nubs should understand the basics of forums , you have to read something to get something, you don't ask for it a million times, basically, our chances of making this succeed are minimal. One nub will come to seek our advice , 5 others will post stupid stuff. Easiest way to fight this is to STOP answering dumb posts that have already been discussed somewhere else.
Ly
They are called n00bs tongue.gif
weirdwilli
Or if you're feeling respectable, newbies.
Ly
Precisely tongue.gif
spAik
Easiest way to fight this is to STOP answering dumb posts that have already been discussed somewhere else.
wrong! posting links like "forum.se-nse.net/search.php" or dont answering is very bad. Its just too much information for now for a newbie startign to mod his phone. We just need to make a big pinned thread with a long FAQ. Its not that we have to update it regulary, we just have to do it one time. We have specialist for everything. i.e. I can write a general FAQ about the non-smartphone-phones, other graphics people can write about layout.xml and the modders even can post a little overview of whats possible and what is not. It would easily doable on a weekend, even with lots of languages (as there is nearly every language written on this forum) and if we get the permission we can upload a lil mod-pack
DaDih*
HELP is REALLY HELP.
Sometimes the posts with search link is good, but sometimes dont!
Then you need "feeling" if newbies dont want search or dont KNOW SEARCH.
In this we help to find the way to solve your problems.
h3ydrich
There is another problem also. When you see a newbie post, it's obvious from a mile


HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLP MEEEEE PHONE WON'T START!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ok now... what phone?.... Why the huge help? And when you open it , there is no phone model, and you actually find out that the phone was out of battery. Scottboy, you should add a HUGE!!!! image on the front page of Se-NSE " SONY ERICSSON NEWCOMER MODDERS!!! CLICK HERE! "

And there they can spam there heads off. Altough , i bet they will post everywhere again , cause they think experts will help 'em
DaDih*
Great Idea H3ydrich!! wink.gif
I 'll use this idea if you give me permission!!
scotsboyuk
I am planning on a complete overhaul of the technical forums to both help newbies and to try and cut down on the number of threads asking you chaps for help.

One part of the strategy will be a total overhaul of the FAQs and tutorials, which I will be asking for help with at some point so anyone who wants to volunteer to write up FAQs or tutorials please feel free to send them to me. smile.gif

The other thing that is probably going to happen is that the structure of the forum will be altered to make it easier to organise topics.

@h3ydrich

That's not a bad idea. I might see if we can include something along those lines in V5.
number1
A troubleshooting guide would be a help with answers to common problems e.g Configuration error saves it being explained over a million times, Also a seperate section for people with dead phones.

Edit another suggestion.
The customizing firmware forum is a mess, theres stuff everywhere impossible to find anything it needs subforums. something like

acoustic/cam/display drivers,
patches, sub forum gfx patches
elfs
flash lite sub forums , menus, wallpapers.
menus
walkman skins
drfox
great idea ...
i dont consider my self as a noob i can add patches and elfs .. change menu .. layouts.. drivers etc ...
but every time i enter the the desktop wars thread .. i feel depressed .. i feel so noob
so the idea is every expert modder - for every mobile - to create packs of complete modifications and add them in a special threrad
DaDih*
You can find some in Newbies Thread!! wink.gif
Coming soon the next ready-to-use packs.
Thx Depeha for idea!!
saajan4niva
its no-sense to discuss and separate new people. yeah site-map will be greate.

but every1 want a live answer not pre-written FAQ. and hard to understand if its unpractical.

and mentioning thing impossible which are possible nowadays creates confusion among new members.
vickmaker
lets be honest the search here is ridiculous,
search for "flashing" lol,
you get most threads ever posted in results,
sureley there is a half sensible php coder here (admin) who is able to sort this search out,
as imo there would be a lot less "n00b on crack" type questions posted and threads hijacked etc etc if the search facility was more accurate.

and the end goal of helping peeps who are just starting out would be more comprehensively covered.

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mojsa
Enables elfpack for elfs...
comment these lines if you have sysgfx patch tongue.gif

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