Hy.

I saw that a lot of people tried to convert a K800 to a K810 and didn't manage, so i thought i would post a little tutorial on how i did it, and how i fixed different little problems i had.

So, first of all, you'll need :
- SEToolLite 2 or XS++ (I'll show you how to use both of them)
- the MAIN and FS of the K810 firmware you want to put on the K800
- a finalisation file for the firmware
- some other files that you might need, for example the "lighteffects" fix.

Here are the files :
Firmware + finalisation :
K810 R8BA024 MAIN (on 4Shared)
K810 R8BA024 FS (on 4Shared)
K810 R8A CDA - Finalisation (Customisation) file (on 4Shared)

Flashing programs :
Setool2lite 1.11 (on 4Shared)
XS++ 3.2 (on 4Shared)


Patches/fixes/addons :
K800 Light Effects (on 4Shared)

Drivers :
K810 SIGNED Drivers (on 4Shared)

The Service Menu:
First of all, lets find out what CDA is in your phone, that's going to be used to determine what kind of Finalisation (Customisation) we'll use.
For that, press : >*<<*<* where > is the right joystick key, the < is the left joystick key and * is of course the * key :-)
In other words, press right joystick, then the *, then twice press left joystick, then * again, then left joystick and finally the * again. Don't worry if in while you're pressing those keys some menu options are selected or the radio starts or stuff like that, just finish the key combination and you'll get to the Service Menu.
This menu can give you a lot of information about the phone. What we want for now is to note the CDA that is currently in the phone. For that, select Service Info->Siftware Info, scroll down till you see the Customisation line, note the text that's under it. For example it might be "CDA102568/207 R2A ...", we're interested in the CDA10256 part. Them when you look for customisation, search for the same CDA version.


Setup :
So, after getting the files lets start by putting the MAIN and FS files in a folder (lets say c:\K810\Files), extract SETool2Lite (or XS++) somewhere (for example in c:\k810\SEToolLite2, or c:\k810\XS++), copy the finalisation archive somewhere where you can find it (for example c:\k810\files).

Now let's start the patching :

SEToolLite2 method :
1. save any data (SMS/Phone numbers/files) from your phone using MyPhoneExplorer (or similar programs) and also backup your phone's internal data using THIS TUTORIAL

2. shutdown the phone : THE PHONE HAS TO BE OFF DURING ALL THE FLASHING STEPS

3. start SEToolLite2, select the phone type, in our case it's K800

4. before we do anything "strange" with the phone we should backup the GDFS (so later on we ca use it if we get into trouble), for that press the "Read GDFS" button and you'll see a message "Hold 'C' and insert USB cable", that actually means that you have to connect the phone to the computer while pressing the "C" button on the phone (we're using the DCU60 cable that came with it).
Now you'll have to wait a little while the GDFS is being backed up (it might take a while, for me it took about 1-1.5 minutes, so be patient)
You'll see a new file GDFS.BIN where SeToolLite 2 was started from, that's the GDFS file, you should make a copy of it somewhere safe and give it a good name, for example : "GDFS_backup_from_k800.BIN"
Now disconnect the phone (take out the connector from the phone)

5. We have to modify the "Finalisation" file to include the "lighteffect fix" or the upper buttons (1,2 and 3) from the keyboard won't be lighted up with the rest.

5.1 first extract the lighteffects_k800.zip file and copy the TPA folder that you got from the archive.

5.2 open the finalisation file, in our case "HB1_06_Gen_CDA102568_4_R6A_GENERIC_MEDITERR.zip" file with explorer (or any of you favorite archiver) and paste the previously copied folder. The idea is to add the files from lighteffects_k800.zip to the finalisation file and keep the internal directory structure of the archive.

NOTE in step 5 you can add any custom files, for example custom Acoustic or Camera drivers, just copy those to the archive.

6. Now let's actually patch the phone, for that in the Files section press "Add" button and add both the MAIN and FS files (i don't think it matters in which order), and under the "Misc Files" press the "..." button (near the "E" button) like in the photo :
.
When you select the right MISC file then on the left side you'll see a message with what "variant" the customisation is and what languages it supports.
Now press the "Flash" button and you'll see again the "Hold 'C' and insert USB Cable", if you forgot to take out the cable in step4 you can take it out now and reconnect the phone. You'll see a few messages and you'll see that in the left side (where the list is) there are messages like "copying chunk 100/406" or similar. Now you really have to be patient, this step can take up to 10 minutes (took about 3-4 minutes for me, but might take longer for others). When it finishes you'll see this message : "Phone detached" and the buttons are once again usable (the Flash/ReadFlash/Read GDFS/...), that really means that you've now have a k810 phone :-D

XS++ 1.6.8 method :
steps 1 and 2 are the same with the SeToolLite2 method so follow those

3. copy XS++ from the archive to a folder, for example c:\k810\XS++

4. make a folder named "files_to_upload" where XS will be, in our case : c:\k810\XS++\files_to_upload

5. copy the finalisation file and lighteffects_k800.zip to that folder and extract them there (for example in WinRAR it's the "Extract Here" option)

6. start XS++ and press "connect" and while pressing the "C" button on the phone connect it to the computer (again, using the DCU60 cable that came with the phone)

7. you'll get to the Flash Firmware window.

7.1 check "Flash Main Firmware" and select the MAIN file

7.2 check "Flash File System" and select the FS file

7.3 check "customize File System" and you'll get an error message like this :

just press OK and select "Settings" radio button and there select "BreakXS" like in the image :


7.4 go back to "Flash" (select "Flash" radio button) and select k800 in the "Phone Model" and "Mediterranean" (or any other as needed by your FS file) like in the image :


7.5 now press the "Flash" button and wait for the flashing to finish (might take some time, so be patient). You'll see messages similar to this :

when the flashing has finished.

8. now lets add our custom files, including the finalisation and lighteffects fix.

8.1 go back to "settings" page and press "Connect" and reconnect the phone (after flashing, the phone is automatically disconnected)

8.2 in the "Flash" tab select "customize file system", you'll get again the error that you need to select a way-in, actually this is what we have to do to be able to select a way-in

8.3 select "Settings" and select "BreakXS"

8.4 select "FSX" and press "Start FSX" button and wait till the process finishes.

NOTE in step 8 you can add any custom files, for example custom Acoustic or Camera drivers, just copy those to the files_to_upload folder.

Now you have a K810, all you have to do is take out the battery, put it back after 5-10 seconds and start the phone. If everything went well you'll have a working K810.


Problems and possible solutions

1. Problem : After flashing my upper keys (1,2 and 3) don't light up.
Solution : You forgot to put the lighteffects_k800 files on the phone, all you have to do is add those files to the phone

2. Problem : When i connect my phone it detects a new Hardware and my drivers don't work anymore
Solution : You need the new drivers for K810, you can download them from HERE

3. Problem : When my phone starts i get "Connection Error. Please contact your service provider"
Solution : That means that you didn't finalize correctly the flashing, actually, in "lame terms" you didn't copy the correct files after finalizing.
All you have to do is try to flash again (maybe try the other method, for example if you tried with SEToolLite and failed, you could try the XS++ method), or at least to do the step 8 from XS++ method.

4. Problem : When i try to connect to the phone using FAR and SEFP it doesn't recognize the phone anymore, but it worked before (when it had the k800 firmware)
Solution : Sadly I don't have a solution for that, but I'm still looking.

5. Problem : The "signal strength" icon shows up as having a blue border like this :
Solution : All you have to do is go to : "Menu>Settings>Connectivity>Data Communications>Preferred Services" and select "CS only"
Note : even if you do the above steps, whenever an application goes on the Internet you're still going to see both bars, that's the way SE phones work. It shows the "blue bar" so you know you've got a data transfer connection active.


FAQ
1. Question : What are the differences between k800 and k810 firmwares ?
Answer : From what i saw, the only difference is that K810 contains :
- TrackID service (Entertainment->TrackID or in Radio Mode More->TrackID) records about 3-4 seconds of any song (either from outside the phone or from the internal radio) sends some data to a server (so it needs Internet connection) and returns the name of the band and song
- PhotoFix (in the "More" menu of image files in Media Browser) - improves image quality
- PhotoMate (under "My applications") - shows a few tips on how to improve the quality of the pictures you take, and what else you can do with them

2. Question : How can i return my phone back to K800 if i don't like the K810 ?
Answer : All you have to use is make the same steps as before, but instead of the K810 FS and MAIN firmware files use the equivalent ones for K800, for example we used the K810_R1KG001_52_MAIN and K810_R1KG001_52_FS_Mediterranean, so look for K800_R1KG001_52_MAIN and K800_R1KG001_52_FS_Mediterranean.

3. Question : Where can i find firmware files and finalisation files ?
Answer : Many can be found here in the forum, but you can look at 4Shared, TopSony, IProtebe.CZ or ShenZhen
Note : The "finalisation files" are often called "Custom files".

4. Question : Can i convert a k790 to a k810 ??
Answer : No you cannot convert a k790 to k810, but you can convert a k790 to a k818 (k818 is the "little brother" of k810 but without 3g, just like how k790 is the "little brother" of k800 but without 3G)

5. Question : How can i find out what CDA to use for Finalisation (Customisation) file ?
Answer : The CDA for the finalisation (customisation) file depends on what network operator you're using, for example, for Orange Romania the CDA is "CDA102511/108 ORANGE_GEN Orange Romania".
For a complete list of what CDA each operator have (for K810) look at THIS LINK from TopSony.
Note If your phone is not locked to any network, then use the "Generic" ones for your country or your Region (for example, Romania doesn't have a "Generic" firmware, so you'll have to use one of the Generic Europe 1,2,4 or 5, don't know exactly which one)

6. Question : What other cool links can do you have ?
Answer : Where, there are a lot of sites about k800/k810 customisation, here are a few of them :
Firmwares, camera drivers, acoustics and even patches :
http://k800download.ic.cz
http://www.mm.pl/~oktawian/

If anybody has any questions or ideas (or if i made any mistake) please post here and I'll edit this post to keep it up to date.

History
18 Sept 2007
- replaced MobyExplorer with MyPhoneExplorer (as QWERTY12 pointed out ;-))
- added FAQ 2 and 3 and fixed a few spelling mistakes (luckily there's the OSpell checker for Opera :-p)
19 Sept 2007
- added problem+solution when the "signal strength" icon shows a blue border
16 November 2007
- added FAQ 4, the one related to converting K790 phones (as I've received quite a few questions related to that). Also, I've change the image at Problems 5 (thanx to Gorki so it's more clear what i mean by "blue border".
24 January 2008
- modified all links to post to 4Shared.com, hopefully those are going to stay online far longer than the original Rapidshare ones (also, the links don't link to an actual file, but to the search engine from 4Shared, that way you can choose the regions/languages you want, it also means that there are more chances the files will exist later on)
- added the link to CDA list, so the users can determine which CDA to use.
- added a few links, might add some more in the future.

Nice, very easy to read. Well done mate

And does this work?

How we return back to K800i after trying the K810i firmware?
we need to use the backup(ed) file?

can i use the firmware here to flash my K800i to K810?

http://rapidshare.com/files/32565779/k810_..._APAC_RED52.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/32566461/k810_...OPE_2_RED52.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/32567068/k810_...USSIA_RED52.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/32568050/k810_...CHINA_RED52.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/32569203/k810_...NERIC_RED52.rar

copied from stickies..

erm..i want to have chinese and english together..so which one should i choose?

Brilliant tut. But one tiny mistake. You would backup data with MyPhoneExplorer, not MobyExplorer

Hy.

I've updated the tutorial a little bit, thanx qwerty12 for pointing out the MyPhoneExplorer is used to back up data.

coffeemoney
1. it works, my phone is K800 but with K810 firmware (i've followed the steps given in the tutorial for that, i've even tried both the SEtoollite2 and XS++ methods, both worked fine)
2. to return to k800 all you have to do is follow the same steps as when you put k810, but use the k800 MAIN and FS firmware.
3. the backup files (contacts/sms/...) can be put back with MyPhoneExplorer.
4. i don't know which firmware contains which languages, there might be a list somewhere, anyways, you might follow this tutorial (from TopSony) where it explains how to add languages to the phone. (the customize.xml file is in the "finalisation" or "custom" folder/archive, so you'll need to modify it before uploading it to the phone.

For firmwares/finalisation files look at http://203.191.145.227/downloading.asp?tp=5 they have a huge database of files.
EDIT the address is : http://www.shenliang.net/downloading.asp?tp=5 (sorry for posting the IP address before)

If anybody has any site/data/tutorial that might be usefull here please post and i'll add them to the first post (of course, giving credit to those that helped).

P.S. maybe this post could become a sticky ? neah, probably not :-p

Cheers! i'll give it a try

can you kindly help a noob out from here?
thx..

can you help me find a APAC firmware for my K800i to flash to K810i..
i cant find any..i download from shenzhen..they are .bin file..so i dono how to use them..
i registered to TOPSONY..cant download..need to wait 1 month..

can someone kindly provide me a Main APAC fw, FS APAC and finalized APAC file..thanks..

I think you might use the ones from http://www.iprotebe.cz (you'll have to register, but registration is free and you can download right away, don't have to wait a month or so)
I believe you need this 2 files :
http://www.iprotebe.cz/download/k810_r1kg0..._red52.rar.html for MAIN
http://www.iprotebe.cz/download/k810_r1kg0..._red52.rar.html for FS

about the finalisation file (or "custom file" as it's called in some places) i don't know where you can find one for APAC.

Erm sorry for disturbing you again..do i need to upgrade my K800i to latest firmware and have CID52 then only i can upgrade to K810i's firmware?

I think so, because from what i saw all k810 are CID52 (didn't see any CID51 firmware for K810). But of course I might be wrong :-).

Anyways, you should update the phone using SEUS so you end up having a K800 with CID52 and then you can flash the K810 firmware.

hi, can u reupload the light effect file to other hosting website like mediafire? thks alot

Great one! Gonna test tomorrow on a friends' Win XP machine

Very good tutorial..I´ve Finally converted my K800 -> K810 .. but lol I don´t like K810 .. so I´ve made my phone once again to K800 ...

thx for the tut ^^.. will help alot of users

I've attached the file to the post (it's a small file, about 1.2 kb).

pimp well, i didn't say K810 is better or more good looking than k800, i only showed how to upgrade :-D
After all, everybody has the right to do as he pleases with his own phone.

will there be any changes/bug/problems if i just update my k800i's MAIN to k810i's MAIN?
just the MAIN, not the FW.

Well, i dont think it will work correctly, after all both MAIN and FS are part of the firmware. I think there might be some incompatibility issues if the MAIN and FS are from different phones.

I didn't try anything like this so i can only assume it doesn't work, maybe somebody did try and can tell us exactly if it works or not

ok, i tried it. it seems the same though but i got photofix from it. no problems/issues. and i don't mind not having TrackID.

I would just like to say thanks a lot for this!

I like the new features such as track ID.

It also fixed my "operation failed" error on games/apps folder.

Thanks again .

HELLO I HAVE A PROBLEM FLASHing WITH XS++ IT say binay acknowledge failed with 89 ,68 returnvalue 0x13d3010 ect i want to know is it matter if i have a k800i with 49cid to flash 52 cid k810 firmware and if is a yes is there a free way of charge to make it without using anora seus or wotan etc for the update i mean i want to flash it to k810 but free not for pay to change cid please help ah and i try to with Setool2lite and say fail too

i have use to flash
k810_R1KG001_FS_EUROPE_2_RED52
k810_R1KG001_MAIN_GENERIC_RED52
HB1-06_Gen_CDA102568_10_R8A_GENERIC_EUROPE_1
no custom

files came from that site is in *.bin extension, but how come it sez error when i use main2raw.exe ?
(the software that converts *.fbn and *.bin files to *.raw files)

robert_san6 first you have to upgrade your phone to have CID 52, for that simply use SEUS and let it upgrade the phone. You can't install a firmware with a different CID than the one on the phone, and from what i've seen you can't convert to a lower CID, for example, after going to CID52 you won't be able to go back to CID49. For me it wasn't a problem since my phone came with CID52 when i bought it (Orange Romania)

bluviper i didn't test the firmwares from shenliang, so i can't say exactly why they don't work. Maybe they use a different BIN format than what main2raw is expecting.

ain't those are ENCRYPTED with the _enc suffix? and we can't use it in any form???

HELLO I WANT TO KNOW IS THERE A WAY TO USE FLASHLITE WHEN YOU CHANGE A K800 TO K810 BUT REAL FLASH LITE NOT GIF AND OTHER THINK CAN IT BE UPLOAD TO THE WALKMAN 2.0 PLAYER NOT KDPLAYER THE REALONE

flash to W series firmware, u get walkman and flash themes but loses cybershot.

mind you, firmware controls the function here.

if flashlite doesnt work on K-series, what 'bout SVG Tiny? could we use svg as menu?
manual said, phone support SVG Tiny as menu.

CAN THERE BE A WAY THAT THE K810 MAIN FIRMWARE COULD BE HACK TO SUPPORT FLASHLITE MENU? THE K790,K800,K810 IS A PERFECT PHONE THE ONLY THING IT NEED IS FLASHLITE OR IF ANYBODY KNOW IF A K810 LASTES FIRMWARE SUPPORT FLASHLITE.

THE ONLY PHONE OF THE K SERIE THAT I HAVE CONVERT IT SUCESSFULLY TO SUPPORT FLASH LITE AND GOT WALKMAN 2.0 WAS THE K550 TO W610 BUT IS NOT A 3.2 MEGAPIXEL

THERE HAS TO BE A WAY TO K800, K810 GET FLASHLITE

HELLO AGAIN I HAVE FLASH MY K800 to k810 but when i connect it to the pc and us XS++ it still say K800

i flashed my k800 to k810.,i've put the light effects. there is no problem with the light when i'm using the phone normally., but when in camera mode the keys 789 has a dim light while *0# doesn't have light., is there a new light effects to fix this

that is the way the firmware controls the k810i for some nice effect.

i have sucessfully flashed my k800i to k810i but i want to remove the SE wap links that are everywhere, i clicked the "dont upload SE wap links" box in XS++ but they are still there, does anybody know how i can get rid of them? and also the camera shutter sound if possile, thanks!

1st of all thanks for the tutorial..it is a excellent one!
sucessfully flashed, modded and reflashed without any kind of problems even a noob with the help of the tutorial can do it (just like me lol)



Jaffa-cake the SE wap links are in customize.xml file at the custom. You can edit the file and just delete them with the notepad and then save as ->all type of files->customize.xml then you can customize your fone again or just replace with Far Manager the customize.xml
with far or even with setool or xs++ 1.6.8 you can delete the camerashutter sound, think it is more easier with xs++ or Far (connect go throw the path /tpa/preset/system/sound/camerashutter4.3gp and /tpa/preset/system/sound/camerashutter4_rer.3gp and delect the files, note ..../camerashutter4.3gpp is four the 4th sound). Can see more at: http://forums.se-nse.net/index.php?showtopic=5797

since i've flashed my k800 to k810 the battery drains easily., anyone experiencing the same problem?

desperately seeking k810 custom pack for generic europe 2,
I've managed to flash over the Main+FS(Europe 2_) and custom pack for medd_europe (altered custom.xml and match the CDA):
my picture service setting is not working, the internet (GPRS) not working... not dialing out. Normally you'd get a flashing globe on the top but it doesnt happen. Urgently need help? I won't be able to sleep unless i have it fixed!

any idea.. suggestions on why it's gone wrong..?

bvo verszipo, cred ca cel mai elaborat tutorial din acest forum...foarte bine pus la punct.
u are my friend from this time.
Congratulations !!!

Hello,
I managed to get my phone (K800i, CID52) connected with XS++ but after selecting the Main+FS files, XS++ won't let me select the "WAYIN" method. Do I need to install anything else? The program detects my phone well and i can backup my GDFS without any problems. Please advise.
Thank you

did you select the "settings" button at the bottom? i didn't know those buttons changed the main page at first.... so maybe you have done the same as me?

also i have now removed camera sound and wap links and added a better camera driver with 26FPS video via FAR, now i love my phone

26fps? Where did you get it?

I put k810 software on my k800 + sound driver of w880, cam driver with 35 fps(If I find 25 fps I will change it but there is hardly description on camera drivers), I put light pach and almoust everyting is ok.

The only problem that I have is when I try to push right in the joistic noting happends (it shuld open video player).

hi...if I flash k800 into k810, do I get the megabass?
thx

I believe you need to recreate the shortcut as flashing a new firmware will delete the old shortcuts. Just go to Settings->General->Shortcuts select "Navig. key right" and there choose whatever you want it to do.



Nope, megabass is only included in the W (Walkman) series from SE. If we ever get the option to apply patches to k800/k810 then maybe we'll have a patch for that too, but until then all you can do is put an accoustic driver with a better bass (don't ask which one as i've only tried 2 or 3 accoustics so i have no idea which is better, or which includes better bass)



Sorry for answering this late, but anyways, read the tutorial again and be attentif and follow the steps exactly (look at step7.3)
The problem with XS is that it doesn't let you select a wayin until you actually connect the phone, that's why i showed in "step 7.3" that you get an error that you didn't select a wayin, but after that you can select "Settings" and choose a way in (i usually choose BreakXS, i don't exactly know what's the difference between them)

I dont have this problem, do you have 3G enabled? try turning that off if you dont use it.

another GREAT tutorial. dude u have the talent. keep up the good job

great man! I did it with success!!
hmmm....still XS++ and SEUS recognized it as K800,,,
maybe the EROM of K800 exists?

To xFox: all firmware from ShenLiang.com work fine with their program SeKing 3.0.3 ... I've just flashed my K800 and everything went fine... so that is a great site...
bye

Ive flashed my K800i to K810i but Track id isnt working,It says "We're sorry, but your device is not allowed to use this service" Im on O2 Uk ive tried K800i wap settings and K810i and even some walkman wap settings but i cant get it to work Anyone has any idea what wrong with it?

I flashed it using k810_r1kg001_main_generic_red52, k810_r1kg001_fs_europe_2_red52 and CDA102511/2

any idea on how to make seus or xs++ to read the phone as k810i?
tis is also buggin me
can anyone pls share or its not possible

Looking some more i think i know what is wrong, when i flashed the phone i used a K800i CDA and im guessing that i was meant to use a K810i CDA. If thats correct does anyone know where i can find a Europe 2 K810i CDA?

Flash the phone with a K810 FS and put this in the customize.xml:

<model>K810i</model>
<phone-name>K810i</phone-name>

erm
wat i meant was this

Baseband ID: 9900
18:47:13| Hardware Platform: db2020
18:47:13| Protocol Version: 3.1
18:47:13| Warning: IMEI name does not match GDFS name (IMEI:K800 GDFS:K810)
18:47:13| ...using IMEI name
18:47:13|
18:47:13| Profiling SEMC phone...
18:47:13| Baseband ID: db2020
18:47:13| OTP CID: 49
18:47:13| EROM CID: 52
18:47:13| EROM Color: Red
18:47:13| IMEI: 35170801xxxxxx
18:47:13| Phone ID: K800
18:47:13| Network: APAC
18:47:13| CDA: CDA102568/101 R6A
18:47:13| Firmware Version: R1KG001
18:47:13| EROM: R3A011

if im not wrong i think wat u posted was to change the phone name when viewed from the phone usin phone status
but anyway thanks for ur help
its ppl like u all here tat makes us proud to b part of the moddin community of se phones

It does do that but it also changes the name in GDFS which is where XS++ gets the infomation from

Thanks