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post 2008-08-04 08:07
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uhmmm i have tried to customize acoustic, cam driver, flash menu, etc. but when i try to patched my w660, it didt work, because mostly in the web gives only patch for firmware R8BB001 whereas my firmware is R6AD001. so IF POSSIBLE i want to change my firmware to those common in the web, so the future patches would be easier.

my question is:
1. is it possible to change my firmware, if so which file do i need, the main, the fs, and the cda or only the main or i dont know..., thats why i m asking? and the process is it the same with patching with xs++ (same with flashing driver/acoustic) if it is different then could you tell me (a tutorial on this would be very great.

2. if changing the firmware is possible, could you direct me to the files i needed to download, the main firmware is easy to search (i've got it R8BB001) but the rest like cda (i'm indonesian btw), FS i dont know where to download if anyone could help me.

3. if IT'S NOT POSSIBLE to change the firmware so, any one can tell me what should i change in the patch file to be able to patch it with my old firmware.

4. thank you very much good sir/lady your reply will be very much apreciated.
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post 2008-08-04 09:08
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You can flash the R8BB001 MAIN and probably leave your FS the way it is, or find the R8BB001 FS too. Either way, you can flash to change to a different firmware version, and you can use XS++.
The guide is below, just remember that you're flashing your phone not a K800 wink.gif
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post 2008-08-04 13:41
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A GENERIC_LA MAIN and a APAC FS will do fine if you need to read/write English & Indonesian, and read Chinese (with default font only so far)

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post 2008-08-07 19:16
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Hi ppl im new here bt i got the basics locked down.about 2 days ago i flashed my k800 to a k810,evertthing was successfull bt is it just me who notices that battery life is exhuasted faster than usual?.i did the same thing with my brothers k750 to w800,and same thing with the battery life.any1 with an explination please let me know y blink.gif
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post 2008-08-17 09:06
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umm... what is the name of rest file for w660i if i'm using setool2 lite 1.07? where can i download it?
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post 2008-08-25 23:59
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Hi! I'm new in the site, it's been fun reading all this stuff, but I'm completly lost! I've always liked modding stuff
(I already bought a housing/fascia and a plastic cover for the phone, hasn't arrived yet!), and I just got this phone, it's a w580i from ATT, and what I've read from people who "just got this phone" is that they screw the display and it ends up not looking so well. I'm a Sony fan, lol. I've modded my PSP, got my PS3 (no mods), and my Sony Bravia! I had a w600 before this but never modded... Ok, enough with my biography.

This is the most, step-by-step'ish guide I've seen for this, it seems that it has everything on it! But since I'm a newb in this, I want to ask some questions before I start messing with my phone:

1) I'm positive that this phone, the w580i, can be modded, but, does this guide works for it?
2) I really don't know where to start! I see in this guide and the guide for "General Usage - XS++ v3.1" that you need to install USB Flash drivers, but I can't find where are the drivers, nor how to do it, I've been searching the whole site!
3) Is there someone with MSN Messenger that has the time and/or patience to show me how to do this?

Right now I'm using a PC with WindowsXP, I read somewhere that it's better to do it with Linux, and I have a PC with Ubuntu, but it isn't currently connected, but I can if it's needed...

Anyways, I hope someone could teach me how to do it, because I'm really anxious to do it! And I hope I learn how to work with this stuff, so sometime in the future I could be helping others with this, I also hope I enjoy my stay here in this site, it seems that the community here is great!

Thanks everyone in advance!
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post 2008-08-26 10:24
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Well, if you just very recently got your AT-T W580i, you're probably having a CID53 phone, which means it cannot be patched, but it can be debranded and certain parts can be modified, like the menus.

As the guide here said,
CODE
If you have a CID 52/[b]53[/b] and a newer platform, then your other best friend is JDFlasher. Both JDFlasher & SEFP are independent plugins for the FAR Manager application.


So you've got to go to the Research & Development section and download JDFlasher.
As well as FAR Manager, and install JDFlasher as a plugin for FAR. (JDFlasher, both test6 and test6add1, should be put in the folder "Plugins" of FAR Manager installation directory)

Then you search the forums for a guide on how to flash your phone using JDFlasher, CID53.
There should be quite a few of these guides around. smile.gif


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post 2008-08-26 19:18
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KrX thanks for responding! Ok, so now, how can I be certain if it really is a CID53? Do I need to install that USB Driver? I don't wanna mess it up!!! Thanks KrX!

edit: Update! I used the XS++, very scared, but did it! lol

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16:12:59| Baseband ID: 9900
16:12:59| Protocol Version: 3.1
16:12:59| Warning: IMEI name does not match GDFS name (IMEI:NULL GDFS:W580)
16:12:59| ...using GDFS name
16:12:59|
16:12:59| Profiling SEMC phone...
16:12:59| Platform: DB2020
16:12:59| OTP CID: 51
16:12:59| EROM CID: 52
16:12:59| EROM Color: Red
16:12:59| IMEI: 01157200xxxxxx
16:12:59| Phone ID: W580
16:12:59| Region: CINGULAR
16:12:59| CDA: CDA102774/102   R25A
16:12:59| Firmware Version: R8BE001
16:12:59| EROM: R3A022
16:12:59| Ready for operation!


Cingular? Everything on my phone says ATT... lol.

Update2: I have downloaded 2 files I think I'll be needing, if someone can tell me if it's true, they are:
W580_R8BE001_MAIN_GENERIC_LA_RED52.rar
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W580_R8BE001_FS_AMERICA_1_RED52.rar

I hope I'm in the right way... because curiosity probably will kill my phone! lol

downloaded them from http://iprotebe.cz

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post 2008-09-13 01:32
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can anyone help me.. how i can have walkman music player..? for k800

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QUOTE (kae @ 2008-09-13 06:24) *
can anyone help me.. how i can have walkman music player..? for k800

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you gotta pay a patch developer for that...


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post 2008-09-13 05:43
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Yes, and you don't exactly get the exact walkman player, you just get your normal player with more features.


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QUOTE (KrX @ 2008-09-13 06:35) *
Yes, and you don't exactly get the exact walkman player, you just get your normal player with more features.

acually it's an exact copy of walkman 1 becouse it has everything


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Ah, ok I understand now. Thanks! smile.gif


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post 2008-09-23 15:42
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but still it's a very good guide thumbsup.gif


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ukoliko neko razume ovu poruku neka mi pm-uje!!!!!!

i need mega help.dun knw how 2 use elfs and how 2 instal patches!!!! if sum1 want 2 help add eightminsupsidedown@hotmail.com thanxxxx <^^>
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Here you find it:
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QUOTE (wizaJ @ 2008-05-28 17:17) *
Firstly, moderators may move this to the appropriate section because it doesn't only cover firmware, but a general user's guide to getting around SE-NSE and finding the information you need to make the most out of your Sony Ericsson smile.gif

DO NOT REPRODUCE ANY OR ALL PART, ANYWHERE OF THIS GUIDE WITHOUT DIRECT PERMISSION FROM ME - WIZAJ.

Thanks go out to diezil, qwerty12 and Mr. Thunderbird. My 3 modding mentors. wink.gif
steadyontherem8, my fellow n00b helper, a great friend.
Special thanks to the experts on the list at the bottom of this guide for letting me put their names here smile.gif

So what's this guide about?
Read above, newbie tongue.gif

I wanna mod my phone NOW! So where do I start?
Well, let me break it down for ya....
All SE phones are basically broken down into groups... Since this is a quickstart guide, I'll be defining terms very concisely....
You'll need to find out your phone's Platform, CID, EROM, Colour and Firmware version... for a start

CID is basically the protection system used on your phone, it determines the loaders used to break into it
Current CIDs in use by SE are 29/36/37/49/50/51/52/53
The most common CIDs are 36, 49, 51/52, 53
The most modifications that are available on SE-NSE can be applied to the above mentioned CIDs, apart from 53, which is still under research and development, but there are tools that work with this type of CID

EROM is Erasable Read Only Memory. This is the base part of the software which isn't flashed in normal update operations. It controls the flashing interface, the boot loader, etc.

EROM Colour:This "colour" defines what kind of phone you have.
RED Phones are typical retail phones
BROWN phones are phones used in development and testing
BLUE phones are the units that were assembled at the factory but never programmed with firmware/IMEI/GDFS

PLATFORM is the hardware 'chipset' used in the mobile you own. DB2000, DB2010, DB2020, DB3150 are the most common platforms, and DB2010 to DB3150 are supported by most free tools

FIRMWARE is the 'operating system' of your phone, it is divided into two parts; MAIN Firmware and FS (File System). The FS contains the system files that are required for operation of the phone itself, and the MAIN is the actual operating environment.

Now to find out this info, we'll use the basic SE moddin' tool, which is XS++ (download)
Where to get it?
We use The R&D Supersticky™
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It's a topic made by Mr. Thunderbird
This topic contains all the links to all flashing programs and their guides, if applicable. Also, it'll be worth your time to look at A Compilation Of Links Across The Forum. That thread is a useful tool in removing your n00bness.

Download XS++ and Se Tool 2 for a start, most things on this forum are packed in RAR and ZIP files, so you'll need an archiving tool like WinRAR, or the free tool 7Zip. You'll need to install the USB Flash Drivers, read the respective general usage guides for each tool, and then profile your phone with XS++



Now, from that profile, we can see that my DB2010 W700i is CID 49 (EROM CID is what we pay attention to). It's a RED Retail phone, and it's running R1CA021 firmware smile.gif

Once you have identified the phone, you'll need to see which modifications you can apply.
If you have a RED CID 36, 49, 52 then XS++ is your best flashing tool, if you have a BROWN 36, you can convert it to 49 through this guide. If you have a BROWN 49, then you'll need a service cable to use this guide

Also, SEFP is another good tool for CID 36 & 49, all of the links can be found in the The R&D Supersticky™

If you have a CID 52/53 and a newer platform, then your other best friend is JDFlasher. Both JDFlasher & SEFP are independent plugins for the FAR Manager application.

The first step to modifying a phone is making a GDFS backup, this is absolutely critical. Please DO NOT SKIP this step, it's covered in the XS++ General Usage guide, and also the Se Tool 2 Lite general usage guide

The second could be flashing the firmware you need. XS++, Se Tool 2, SEFP & JDFlasher can all flash firmware. You may select the appropriate tool according to your profile. The alternative is SEUS (Sony Ericsson Update Service) but it updates the CID on all DB2020s+ to CID 53, rendering the phone less moddable. It is safe for DB2010 and below.

After performing an FS flash, you do need to customise your phone. You do this by using custpacks. They contain languages and other important info. Most custpacks are embedded into XS++, but if you want to know more, or edit one of your own, then I strongly recommend you click here

Flashing and firmware guides are here
Firmware files can be found in here
Most firmware files can also be found here, here, or here
Some of the above website may require the use of Google Translate
You can also do a google search and include the '4shared' term to find firmware.
A sample google query is here
If you're having trouble flashing, you may post your problem here
Only after using this feature of course wink.gif

Moving on to more advanced modifications, things such as Elfs, Acoustics, Menus, GFX and Camera drivers can all be found here
Be careful when installing those advanced mods and make sure that they're compatible with your phone.

The R&D thread contains works in progress, so you may look into them if you feel you are comfortable using items that are still yet to be finalized, but remember to read this first. You can also learn a lot from that thread.

Mods... Explained

Is it dangerous?
Using modded drivers does shorten the hardware's life span, but not by a significant difference. This is because almost all modded drivers are very high performance and push the hardware to the limit. Hence more wear & tear

Acoustics
These are the sound drivers for your phone, they control the parameters such as volume, clarity and noise reduction. There are many available 3rd party acoustics on SE-NSE. Please note that DB2010s use APF acoustics, DB2020s use ZAPF acoustics, and believe it or not, DB3150s use XML acoustics (citation needed) Acoustics are not firmware/model dependent but are platform dependent

Camera & Display Drivers
These are a bit self explanatory, but they basically control clarity and speed parameters. Camera drivers are model dependent. Display drivers however, may work on other models, and this behaviour has also been noticed on some camera drivers.

Patches
Patches allow for some extreme changes in how the phone works. They can change the UI, and security restrictions and a lot more things. Patches work by changing values in the firmware, though they are some patches that do write values outside of firmware, and these are the dangerous ones. Some CAN write to EROM but it's usually mentioned in the patch. This is why it is recommended to unpatch all your patches before flashing a new MAIN. Patches are firmware and model dependent. Strictly. Misused patches have been known to completely destroy a MAIN.

Elfpack/Elfs
These are small executables that use the phone's ARM processor. They can access many native functions of the
phone that allow for some unique applications that cannot be developed on any other phone. You will need the Elfpack and Elf Library patch for your specific phone and firmware, although the Elfs themselves are not dependent on anything, i.e, any Elf will run on any phone that has Elfpack and the necessary library functions. If you experience problems running Elfs, it means that your library does not have the necessary function(s) used by that Elf. Different libraries are released for different phones, usually dependent on the maker of the elf, who attaches the function you need in the form of a VKP patch alongside the elf for your convinience. Having Elfpack installed means that your SE can get viruses. Only use trusted Elfs that are verified by many users.

GFX/SysGFX
sysgfx is a patch that allows you to change the GUI of your phone using images to replace elements in your UI. GFX are the actual images that you upload to your GFX directory. On most DB2020s, images are converted to patches, you cannot have sysgfx the same way as on DB2010.


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WizaJ-DB2010/20 Firmware specialist, APF Acoustic expert, Elf expert, Patch expert. W700, K850 Owner.
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does it possible to convert DB3150 CID 49 Brown to CID 52 Red?
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great guide wiza, really helped me figure out whats what smile.gif

"PLATFORM is the hardware 'chipset' used in the mobile you own. DB2000, DB2010, DB2020, DB3150 are the most common platforms, and DB2010 to DB3150 are supported by most free tools"

its now possible to flash DB3150, i believe, so would it be possible to apply a remove sim lock patch using a2uploader or JDFlasher?

thanks in advance and once again wiza, great guide thumbsup.gif



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